Logic of God versus Man.
People want to make sense of everything. It is very natural and almost rational.
The interesting thing is people want to do the same with God, His Word and basic theological understandings.
It really puts God in a box. The whole idea that we can have facts, and feelings and it equal faith is almost silly.
There are just some things we don't or won't understand this side of eternity. (Of course this discussion stems from one trying to explain the concept of the Trinity, but thinks Grace makes sense? I'm like "what?")
Does it mean we give up on Theology? No. Theology afterall is a life long pursuit of learning, re-learning and seeking after God.
Doesn't 1 Corinthians 1:25 say "The foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength"
Grace doesn't make sense. Hence, one of the amazing things about it. That is why the message of the cross is power to us as vs. 18 of 1 Cor. 1 tells us.
One of the things I think we discount is we forget about the Mystery of God. Colossians 2: 2 talks about this, namely: Christ.
There is the unseen essentials of God. as 2 Corinthians 4:18 talks about fixing on our eyes not one what is seen, but what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary. What is unseen is eternal.
Ephesians 6:12ff. talks about our struggle and the spiritual realm that is out there.
In Job 38-41, God in response to Job and His questions basically states "I Am God ..." and how does one who is indivine understand the ONE who is divine. The mortal trying to understand immorality. We can try, we can pursue ... but ultimately we can't put God in this box.
Now someone might state to me, Gman ... you are applying logic as if expected ... and there is a difference to the laws of logic. It seems to me that God created logic, is above logic and yet interacts with it. Why? The same way He does with Time. He is God.
There are basic doctrines and theology we can try to understand (But if we get a perfect grasp on them - is it really Faith) .... I'm sure my professors, and Dr. Cottrell would say things to the contrary that We can know certain doctrines for sure. (And we can if We're in His Word and continually studying it)
It seems to me almost arrogant of people to say the Cross makes logical sense. To Who? Maybe to God ...but to us ... that is one of the amazing things about it. The whole Bible doesn't make sense. We teach it like it does.
When was the last time you saw the flannelboard of Noah and the Ark ... and later him getting drunk and naked. There isn't. We tell these stories like they make sense ...but ultimately it comes down to God's Story interacting with His people and how we can be a part of His Story.
Thus we like to make sense of God. Things like doctrinal studies, apologetics, and so forth are great tools but let's not discount faith and to study God's Word first. God's Wisdom and Logic is far better than anything man has to offer. I think for one God doesn't need more people defending His Name as much as He needs people to follow Him first and foremost.
God has defended His own Name on His own.... What He needs is people to take a stand for Him and to live for Him and to love Him and others. Sometimes we're so busy putting out all the flaws of the world ... we forget that Jesus was more harsh with the religious believers at the time than He was those who didn't know Him. There is just some things I'm coming to a conclusion that I'll never fully understand this side of eternity. how about you?
The interesting thing is people want to do the same with God, His Word and basic theological understandings.
It really puts God in a box. The whole idea that we can have facts, and feelings and it equal faith is almost silly.
There are just some things we don't or won't understand this side of eternity. (Of course this discussion stems from one trying to explain the concept of the Trinity, but thinks Grace makes sense? I'm like "what?")
Does it mean we give up on Theology? No. Theology afterall is a life long pursuit of learning, re-learning and seeking after God.
Doesn't 1 Corinthians 1:25 say "The foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength"
Grace doesn't make sense. Hence, one of the amazing things about it. That is why the message of the cross is power to us as vs. 18 of 1 Cor. 1 tells us.
One of the things I think we discount is we forget about the Mystery of God. Colossians 2: 2 talks about this, namely: Christ.
There is the unseen essentials of God. as 2 Corinthians 4:18 talks about fixing on our eyes not one what is seen, but what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary. What is unseen is eternal.
Ephesians 6:12ff. talks about our struggle and the spiritual realm that is out there.
In Job 38-41, God in response to Job and His questions basically states "I Am God ..." and how does one who is indivine understand the ONE who is divine. The mortal trying to understand immorality. We can try, we can pursue ... but ultimately we can't put God in this box.
Now someone might state to me, Gman ... you are applying logic as if expected ... and there is a difference to the laws of logic. It seems to me that God created logic, is above logic and yet interacts with it. Why? The same way He does with Time. He is God.
There are basic doctrines and theology we can try to understand (But if we get a perfect grasp on them - is it really Faith) .... I'm sure my professors, and Dr. Cottrell would say things to the contrary that We can know certain doctrines for sure. (And we can if We're in His Word and continually studying it)
It seems to me almost arrogant of people to say the Cross makes logical sense. To Who? Maybe to God ...but to us ... that is one of the amazing things about it. The whole Bible doesn't make sense. We teach it like it does.
When was the last time you saw the flannelboard of Noah and the Ark ... and later him getting drunk and naked. There isn't. We tell these stories like they make sense ...but ultimately it comes down to God's Story interacting with His people and how we can be a part of His Story.
Thus we like to make sense of God. Things like doctrinal studies, apologetics, and so forth are great tools but let's not discount faith and to study God's Word first. God's Wisdom and Logic is far better than anything man has to offer. I think for one God doesn't need more people defending His Name as much as He needs people to follow Him first and foremost.
God has defended His own Name on His own.... What He needs is people to take a stand for Him and to live for Him and to love Him and others. Sometimes we're so busy putting out all the flaws of the world ... we forget that Jesus was more harsh with the religious believers at the time than He was those who didn't know Him. There is just some things I'm coming to a conclusion that I'll never fully understand this side of eternity. how about you?
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